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Panasonic SL-MP80 CD/MP3 Player
By: Panasonic       Average Rating: 4.0     Total Reviews: 20
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Incredible piece of electronics ! ! !
by: iamthesystem    On: 2004-04-11

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This CD player is amazing for one simple reason: you can fit up to 15-17 CDs worth of music on it. I am fairly experienced with computers--I used Windows Media Player to rip songs from 11 CDs from my CD collection, then burned them to ONE CD. Windows Media Player was able to automatically download song/album information using CDDB--navigating from CD to CD and within each virtual CD is a breeze. Now--I *have* put my MP3s onto a CD and I will acknowledge that many, many mp3s will fit onto a single CD. However, I am amazed that so many MORE WMAs will fit onto the same CD. The manual recommends ripping songs at 96kbps and this is fine for me. I notice no sound degradation at all.

The sound is very good. (...)

This is a very cool piece of technology and I am very pleased with the sound--but I am so over-the-edge happy about the WMA format and functionality.

This is a must-get.


MISLEADING , but still good in other ways.     On: 2004-03-10

Let me first say I am no PC Wiz as it were, and This is my first CD player that I have brought that can play WMA AND MP3S.
All that being said, let me tell you why I have given this only three stars.
I have a PC that has WINDOWS ME LET ME MAKE THAT CLEAR and try as I might, and I had verrrrrrrrry good help doing so. THIS CD PLAYER DOES NOT---- LET ME SAY THAT AGAIN, DOES NOT!!!! SHOW ID TAGS if you are using WINDOWS ME. XP is a different story and it should work fine for you. I brought this model because it can play just about anything you put in it, MP3, WMA, CDRW AND CDR.
BUT not being able to have the ID TAGS show is a real let down. I really dont need the display screen without it doing that so. It should have made things CLEAR and not just say it works with WINDOWS. RATHER IT SHOULD SAY , IT SHOWS ID TAGS WITH WINDOWS XP.

Somethings you just need to see and buy in a store to learn all the hidden facts, a lesson learned for me. I hope this helps you.


A decent MP3/CD player that fits most needs.     On: 2004-02-15

I bought this CD player looking for an MP3/CD player with long battery life and durability. I got pretty much what I wanted -- the players survived a couple tough falls (though itll roll a bit if it lands on its side) and the batteries have held out over periods when I forgot to stop the music. I do have a few doubts as to whether they last for 48 hours, but theyre good for at least 20, which serves my purposes fine. The claim of resumable playback is also questionable -- Ive had some trouble getting it to work consistently.

One major feature thats lacking is fast-forwarding on MP3 CDs -- you can only do this on audio CDs, as holding down the seek buttons just move you up and down the folders in data CDs. But my only other complaint would be the lack of a LCD backlight -- its really difficult to figure out what Im doing in the dark, though the button configuration is still intuitive. Id also have prefered a scrolling (vs. the button-based) volume control, but thats not all that important either.

The playback of MP3s and WMAs is useful, though if you have no use for the latter just save yourself some money and get the MP70 (unless you like the concentric ring design of the MP80 to the MP70s blue gradient). There are no problems with sound, a hold button exists, skipping has never happened to me, having ID3 tags is nice, and read time is good.

Priced on the lower end of MP3 CD players, Id say this one is a good buy, but Id shop around a little more to make sure you get the features you want. Theres no remote or FM tuner on this one, and some players boast even higher battery lives. But if all you need is a reliable MP3 CD player thatll play everything on it reasonably conveniently (as long as you dont need to see song info in the dark or be able to search within an MP3 track), this may be the one youre looking for.


Great CD player, good quality
by: Anonymous    On: 2004-02-09

I think this CD Player is very good. I got it for Christmas and the only problem I have had with it was I was stupis enough to leave in my backpack and it got scratched. But that was me : ). I use it all the time, and it is great on batteries. 48 hours on 2 AA.
A CD Player that Stanks of Crapiness     On: 2003-12-25

First off, the sound quality is lacking some punch. This is as loud as it gets? I know this is a pretty cheap cd player but come on now, really? Sure this cd player looks cool and all but this thing has no durability whatsoever. I drop this thing one time and the thing fell all apart. Now Im out $60 for this piece of crap. The features are okay (thats it, its only okay)but youd kind of expect more from a Panasonic product (their suppose to be the leader in electronic features). The sound presets are absolutely pointless, the live setting sounds like someone is playing the music from out of a pringles can, the bass muffles the sound of the music a little and the regular sound preset is really not any better than the previous two settings. The only redeeming factor of this product is that it doesnt eat up battery power quickly but I wouldnt advice buying this based on this positive. DO NOT BUY THIS, I REPEAT DO NOT BUY THIS!!! PANASONIC CD PLAYERS STANK OF CRAPINESS.
Easy to use
by: gadgester    On: 2003-12-23

It must be hard to be a gadget designers. You take an excellent CD player and decide to add the ability to play MP3 and WMA files while selling the new model for the same price, and then, to your surprise, you get a bunch of whiners complaining why you didnt make it capable of showing porn movies and also washing dishes at the same time, all for the same low price.

The point is, this is a very solid CD player that can also play MP3 and WMA files. The interface is very simple, just like on a regular CD discman. Yes, if you had 1000 songs youd have to press the forward button 999 times to get to the last one. But this is not meant to be a dedicated MP3 player. For that you have the iPods, the RCA Lyras, the Rios, the Archos jukeboxes. If you listen to a lot of MP3s, you should get a dedicated MP3 player, not this. This is for those of us who listen to CDs on the go a lot, and sometimes have a CD-R or two burned with our favorite MP3s.

Tip - to get around the "press forward 99 times to get to the 100th song or 999 times to get to the 1000th song" problem, put a dozen songs in each folder. The Panasonic automatically designates each folder an album, and you can skip to the next album by holding down the fast-forward button.

As for the criticism of the volume, I guess its a very personal thing. I listen to music on the earphones for about 1.5 hours each day, usually during my commute to and from work. I believe my hearing is excellent -- at least thats what my company doctor tells me -- so to me, the bundled Panasonic headphones are already pretty loud at volume level 18, even on a noisy subway such as the No. 1 train or one of the older N trains here in New York. But I usually use a set of Aiwa headphones with bass boost and in-line volume control (bought at Centure 21 downtown near the World Trade Center site) and everyone Ive let try out this combination says the volume is more than adequate, even at mid-level settings. I think the upshot is, you have to try it yourself. If you have indulged in loud music directly over your ears over the years, the sad truth is you probably should cut down the amount of music you listen to and work with a specialist to restore some of your hearing abilities.

So these are my 2 cents on the excellent SL-MP80. (The slightly cheaper SL-MP70 does not support WMA but is otherwise identical. I have a longer review for that model because thats what I eventually kept.) The sound quality is great, battery life is excellent (although its stupid for Panasonic to put the battery compartment inside the player so you cant change batteries without taking out the CD), and the design is stylish. I think youll like this CD player a lot, assuming you are not too hard at hearing.


Good but could be better     On: 2003-11-21

Postives:
+Attractive price
+Looks pretty cool
+Plays CDs/MP3/ and WMA (havent tried yet).
+Long battery life

Negatives:
-Soft (weak maximum volume)
-Inability to ff/rew inside mp3/wma files
-Having to press the ff/rew button 25 times to get to the 26th song.
-No power supply included
-No remote
-Doesnt feel durable (has panasonic lost its quality control?)


Pleasantly Surprised     On: 2003-11-02

Ive started using the MP3-Pro format and then discovered my 1st gen Casio portable wouldnt play them and was getting a little tired of converting files. I stumbled across the Panasonic surfing the web on my phone and made an impulse buy. Wow. It plays MP3-Pro (and about every other MP3 rate), has a great battery life, its light-weight and overall very cool (thats important, right?). It also plays WMA files and normal audio CDs (havent tested/listened to either so far). It reads song tags in its 2-line, arc shaped LCD display - which is nice when you cant remember a song or artist name, or are searching for a specific title. Ive got a disc burned in MP3-Pro (96Kbps) with 110 songs (300 megs) playing in random currently and song access time is great (fast). The headphones are light in weight and sound fine. The earpiece is at a different angle and so rotating the headband back on your head a little gets the earpieces in the sweet spot. However I prefer to listen through a pair of Sony MDR-7506 phones (the coiled cord is heavy and can pull the light player off a table or desk if youre not careful). If youre already comfortable burning data or music CDs and new to portable players and dont want to drop a ton of cash, I think the Panasonic hits the mark perfectly. Note: No AC adapter came with this package (SL-MP80) and the Amazon price is better than the competition. I dont personally care for the preset EQ settings either. Of course on my wish-list is hardware based crossfading - maybe someday.
Lacks two critical features and more
by: Anonymous    On: 2003-11-01

This looked like a great deal, and was highly rated when I bought it. Sure looks cool, too! Live and learn.
I have two major gripes about it: weak maximum volume, and its inability to ff/rew inside mp3/wma files.
I listen to a lot of classical music, which due to its innately large dynamic range, is usually recorded several dB lower than pop music. This units maximum volume is simply too low to hear soft passages clearly. As for pop music, the max volume is only *slightly* louder than I can take, and Im pretty careful with my ears. If you like to hammer yourself with a huge sound, dont buy this. It probably gets excellent battery economy because of its wimpy power output. Oh, and I compared it to my 4-year-old discman, (same disc, fresh batteries, same headphones), and the discman is definitely capable of louder output.
Furthermore, the inability to ff/rew (in mp3) is frustrating because again, classical music tends to have a few 10-20 minute tracks, instead of 12 4-min tracks... and I often like to listen to specific passages, not an entire movement. Fortunately, it *does* ff/rew on a proper audio CD.
The mega-bass EQ is acceptable, but the "live" setting sounds positively ridiculous, like the music is being played inside a gigantic trash can.
Finally, there is a slight pause between mp3 tracks, though my mp3s are encoded at 256kbit, so Im surprised the unit even plays them.

I think Im going to return this tomorrow...


Slick look,.......But that's pretty much it.     On: 2003-10-30

I was on the prowl. Searching for an mp3/cd player at low cost, and amazing sound, both volume and levels. I got this player and although it looks very cool indeed, its still weak. Theres no fastforward or rewind in songs! Whats that about? How could you not add that? To get to song 160 you have to click the forward button 159 times! Very inconvenient. But that wouldnt bother me at all! If the sound was blow me away, amazing. But it wasnt, it was what you would expect from a generic cd player. I need loud and I need bass. I also bought new koss headphones for this thing and still, dull sound. I cant yet point you to the perfect mp3/cd player. But trust me, its not this.
It DOES have resume     On: 2003-10-24

If you read the manual it does have "Resume". Amazon has even included the manual online to confirm. It clearly states the resume function is automatic but is cancelled if you replace the disc. Excellent product for the price.
Does not resume at "exact spot"     On: 2003-10-05

I had to return it to Amazon because I could never get it to resume in the "exact spot" where it left off. I tried & tried on both regular CDs, burned CDs, & MP3 CDs. Nothing worked. It doesnt even say this feature exists on the box or in the instructions. Amazon created this one out of thin air. Ive asked them to change their description, but they havent yet. So if this feature is important to you (like it is to me) then dont buy this unit.

Also, it felt cheap... very "plasticy" if youll pardon my nonsense word. I really expected more from Panasonic.


A great deal - wonderful sound - doesnt skip     On: 2003-09-30

Have owned Sony, Aiwa, Memorex and other portable CD-players over the years, including a couple near top of the line Sony discmans. I seem to get about 3 years use out of any one - regardless of brand. Its the just the fact of the matter. I dont grouse, just resign myself to buying another one every so often. Now that Im into MP3 and have started running again to stay fit I was looking for a discman that had good skip resistance with MP3s and also sounded good. Hard to find both it seems. Tried an offbrand sports discman (Accuphase)- mediocre sound, skipped. Tried an mid price level Sony Atrac capable sports discman - incredibly poor ergonomics and, (my fault) had I read the label, doesnt play mp3s. Returned it. Started reading discussion groups with my 2 criteria in mind. Found this player. *** Its wonderful ***. It does * not * skip and I can go to town trying to make it skip. Maybe mine was made on a good run, I dont know. I just know it works right. The only drawbacks: You cant fast search, and, like 90% of all discmans out there, one hard and fast truth: ditch the headphones immediately and get some good ones. You will come into a whole new world, sound will improve a couple grades easily. Just figure the price of decent headphones into the real cost of ownership. Volume is adequate/satisfying/enough - not "extra" or blow you away loud but satisfying with decent mid to high efficiency headphones. If youre into LOUD metal volume this may not be the player for you but it wasnt "weak" either. The sound is warm but clear. I encode my mp3s at 128 or 192kbps using the LAME encoder. They sound * great * !! Heck...it sounds better than my stereo at home in some ways. Really I would give this a 4.5 but I dont want to knock it down to a 4. I shouldnt say how good this is as I want a couple more for my friends. I considered the iRiver discmans but backed off due to reports of unbulletproof skip protection which was a primary concern for me. I really havent auditioned them - they get good reviews mostly - Im sure they are fine. I covet their hard drive player. Until the hard drive players come down to a reasonable price - this was my solution and is great sounding unit. I am happy.

P.S. For MP3s this unit displays the regular windows-named filename in a scrolling billboard way (when you ask for it by switching views - otherwise its track # and time) which works for me. If you are outdoors/active I recommend obtaining a Case Logic or some kind of see-through padded outer case for bad weather as icing on the cake.


Pretty good     On: 2003-09-28

*The first thing that I must mention is that the only difference between this player and the MP70 is the 80s ability to play WMA files. If you dont need that functionality then DO NOT get this player. The MP70 is about 10 bucks cheaper.

Now on to the actual review:
At first glance the player looks pretty attractive, although a tad bulky. When it was started, it took about 10 seconds to load the cd and start playing.
The audio quality was quite excellent especially if you like listening to music with a lot of bass, such as rap , r+b, alternative rock, etc; the EQ bass mode takes care of that.
The battery life does indeed live up to its claim. I still havent listened to the cd player until the batteries have died, and I use the player quite a bit.
The only thing lacking with the player is the inadequate navigation system. To get to track 100, you have to click the skip button 99 times. Although this problem can be somewhat remedied by putting songs in specific albums, panasonic could definitely improve this aspect of the player. Then it truly would be the best.
Overall, the ML-70/80 are definitely the best bangs for the buck. Its affordable price, great functionality, and aesthetic design will provide countless hours of entertainment.


great cd/mp3 player     On: 2003-09-11

my dad bought a 300 cd/mp3 player and this one is just as good. i love it. has great sound. the headphones arent that great so i got new headphones and now its great. my only vice is it doesnt come with a charger so you can plug it in & not have to use batterys.
Best one around     On: 2003-08-21

The first one I bought I had to return because there was strange background noise (intermittently high pitch clicking) while playing back MP3. After awhile the player start skipping. (I know it claimed to be no-skip) So I thought it was my bad CD that I burned. But it was not. It skipped and click even with my regular music CD. So I returned and got my money back. The unit must have been damaged or something. After a week of no musics to listen to I did some more research on the web in hope of finding a good (better) CD/MP3 player to replace. But it seems like theres no better quality and value out there for the same price range. So I went back to the same store and give this player another chance. This time I was so impressed with the flawless performance. Battery life was long as they claimed. And I think its longer than they said (nearly 60 hrs if you dont crank up the volume). Love the ID3 tag feature. Most of all, its one of the rare CD players that is made in Japan. I own it for nearly 3 months now. I listen to it everynight about 1-2 hours a night. No problems what so ever. Highly recommend it.
Great Sound Quality and Battery Life, but not a Rio     On: 2003-08-13

Im such a spoiled..., i just love to navigate through a mp3 cd (RioVolts did it beautifully, but the battery life is horrible) and this device just isnt friendly that way...a downright pain in the... if you have a bunch of random songs. Additionally, the resume feature only works on one cd and starts at the beginning of the track (again, RioVolts do multiple cd resuming and resume wherever you are in the track). Best sound quality and battery life Ive ever had the pleasure of partaking of in a cd/mp3 player though...the concert hall setting makes the sounds resonate beautifully. Oh ya, one more bad thing...no protective case...which is a must with these delicate and thinly designed cd players.
An excellent choice     On: 2003-07-10

This CD/MP3 player is an excellent choice for anyone who wants to carry a large selection of music without being burdened by bulky stacks of discs. A single MP3 CD will hold eight or nine hours of music, even at the high bitrate I prefer. In theory, I could put my entire music library-- over one hundred albums-- on ten MP3 CDs and fit them in a single CD wallet.

The sound quality is excellent, easily in the upper levels for portable CD players. The headphones that come with the SL-MP80 are unexceptional but perfectly adequate, although audiophiles will probably want to use their own set of lightweight headphones to really get full performance.

Durability is another nice touch. Im currently on deployment at Camp Arifjan, Kuwait; heat and dust make this a tough tour for electronic devices, but this one has held up like a champ. It sees particularly rough handling as I like to take my music with me when I exercise, but so far I havent even scratched the case.

The only complaint I have is a minor one: The SL-MP80 does not read v2 ID3 tags! The older ID3 format is supported, but the newer extended format isnt. The v2 standard is hardly new, and I dont see any compelling reason to exclude it, but for some reason this unit simply doesnt support them. It will, however, read ID3 v1 tags, as well as MP3s with both v1 and v2 tags.

All in all, I couldnt suggest a better portable CD/MP3 player.


Versatility of technologies     On: 2003-06-20

As advertised, it does play all three: CD Audio, MP3 and WMA!

At first I had my doubts, but once I got past the WMA copy protection issue and the Variable-Bit-Rate problem, Voila!

Do NOT use Windows Media Variable-bit-rate recording option for the WMAs.

IMHO, this is a real sophisticated piece of electronics with such versatility and portability.

And, so far, it is quite easy on the standard alkaline off-the-shelf AA batteries, at least with MP3s and WMAs.

The three choices of Equalizer pre-sets include S-XBS (bass boost), LIVE, and blank/standard. The LIVE setting is HI-FI when used on a number recorded before a live audience and to me sounds like the listener is on the front row of a concert. 3D?

One word of caution, however: I am a mature adult and I treat this hardware with the somewhat delicate care such technology deserves. Im afraid my young adult son would break it in a few days; dont skateboard with it in your pocket! ;-)

Also, read the user manual! The player does have other limitations, but theyre stated in black-and-white.

And last but not least: I just burned ONE CD with 122 songs on it! Thats really compact, to me. (In case you cant tell, this is my first experience with a portable MP3 player.)


Good Value for WMA Playback     On: 2003-06-08

This is one of a few CD players that support WMA. If this is important to you, then you should get it, otherwise there are cheaper CD players around.

I tested the player with a CD-R with WMA files encoded at 128 Kbps, and I was happy with the playback.

BTW, the claim that the players can do 48 hours of playback for a pair of AA batteries is true only for alkaline batteries and 128 Kbps MP3 playback under specific conditions. If you are playing something else and/or not using alkaline batteries, the claim probably does not apply.



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