 JVC HD-52Z575 52" HD-ILA HDTV-ready rear-projection TV By: HD-ILA Average Rating: 4.0 Total Reviews: 18 More Information
On: 2007-04-16
Our HD-52Z575 was only 18 months old when the DMD malfunctioned (resulting in a split picture w/half of image reversed and color bizarre). It would cost $1000 to fix a $2500 TV--no longer under the one year warranty. The tech says this a "common problem" w/JVC widescreens, and the JVC customer service rep says these TVs were "not designed to withstand being moved from the factory to the retail stores--cant take the abuse." Buy another brand, and/or buy a very extended warranty. We are throwing a $2500 TV in the trash. On: 2006-03-15
I have always come to understand that sometimes electronics are faulty (As I was an electronics technician), but the issues I have had with this piece of electronics have far exceeded even my worst nightmare.
Short Version:
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-11/06/05 Bought TV at local electronics store (REX Electronics)
-02/27/06 Turned TV on and heard pop, flickering lights on front. Opened bulb casing, bulb is shot (this is after about 400 hours of use, Bulbs are rated at greater than 10x that). Call JVC customer service, they said they would ship out a new bulb 2nd day air.
-03/01/06 Got a voice mail from a JVC rep saying they cannot ship the bulb without my credit card information so as to charge me if I dont return the blown bulb.
-03/02/06 I provide credit card information, am advised that the bulb will ship 2nd day air on 3/3
-03/07/06 No bulb arrives, I contact JVC customer service. Im told that JVC has "mixed up the good bulbs from the bad bulbs in the warehouse" and that they dont expect to have it worked out until the end of the week. Speak with team leader Eli, he assures me that this will get resolved.
-03/10/06 I am told that the bulb has shipped out on 3/9.
-03/14/06 I received the bulb and replaced the bad bulb. Immediately the entire downstairs of my house begins to smell like chlorine. I turn off the TV and contact JVC customer service. Im told that the bulb is defective and to send it back. I am also told that the bulbs are on back order and it will take over two weeks to get a new one. I speak with JVC manager Joe Rodiguez, he apologizes but does not budge on the two week replacement. When I ask to speak with Joes manager, he advised that he did not have a manager, and he could do nothing for me.
I have had a horrible experience with these bulbs, and JVC customer service is unwilling to reasonably appease you if you have bulb problems. I am unsure that JVC can do anything to restore my confidence in their customer service or products at this point. Do yourself a favour and skip the hassle.
I did contact the electronics store that I purchased this television from (REX). I advised the manager that I wished to return the television for a full refund. Well see where that goes. On: 2005-12-14
I love everything about this TV - EXCEPT the bulb doesnt last nearly as long as JVC will lead you to believe. We got about 600 hours out of ours vs. the 6000 JVC claims. There are blogs about lamp life and there are people trying to build a class action suit. On: 2005-12-07
Read all the other reviews and you will notice that everyone is overly concerned about "brightness". I spent hours in different stores comparing TVs and I too was impressed by the JVCs clarity and contrast; but from time to time the video would turn to a dark scene and I was less impressed.
After reading all these 5 star reviews praising the brightness and after also comparing many TVs at the stores showing videos designed to "brag brightness" I was convinced that this was the TV for me and I bought it. As I mention, I had noticed problems with dark scenes, but I decided that 95% of a movie would be bright and it would never bother me. Mistake.
I have had the TV for 3 weeks; for the first 2 I was very happy, then I rented two movies in a row where several scenes take place at night. I could only see shadows, and I couldnt tell at all what was going on. I couldnt believe that people would make a movie where you could see nothing, so I connected my $80 13-inch TV on which I saw the same scene perfectly; the difference was astonishing.
The problem with this TV is that it can not produce blacks. You will be disappointed every time to watch a movie about outer-space or that takes place in a dark alley or whatever. Instead of having "shades of black" (or grays) it will look to you as if there was a very thin illuminated cloth through which you see the picture. There will be a constant "brightness" in your dark scenes which makes it impossible for this TV to show you anything in those, it simply cant display the shades that it should. It is really bad. ... or maybe you will just think the movie is like that and you will write another 5 star review praising this TVs brightness.
On the other hand, I love how this TV shows bright scenes, it is unbeatable, really, maybe just a plasma does better. But how much value should you really give that? How would you like a car that only drives fast during the day?
I am still thinking what to do, I have another week to return the TV. I hate to pay so much for a TV that works so poorly for some movies, worse than an $80 tv! Are there any better ones out there? I will definitely go check. Now I know that I am very willing to sacrifice a minimal drop in brightness or contrast to get a better overall performance. On: 2005-11-15
The TV picture is great but my lamp blew out in 5 months and about 500 hours of use. The lamp is rated to run for 6000 hours according to JVC.
I have also found out online that many people have had the same problem and JVC is failing to acknowledge this problem.
I would caution the buyers that this is potential problem for JVC D-ILA sets in general, not just this model. On: 2005-08-17
This set was purchased for my parents and they could not be happier. They are not tech savy people and my dad did not understand the difference between DLP and LCD. When we compared this set to others in the store there was no comparison and it only got better when it was delivered to the home. The color is bright and clear, even in when watching non HD channels. Im so jealous over this set that I make excuses to go over and watch certain programs on their new JVC set. Buy this set, you wont regret it! On: 2005-06-07
I visited 5 stores with the JVC and none of them had the JVC looking good. I was nervous because I was contemplating dropping $2800 on a set that looked less then spectacular at every store I auditioned it at. Yet, there were dozens of people claiming to love their JVC. Reviews left and right raving about its accurate colors, stunning HD, superior cabinet design. So, I took the plunge. I could not be happier.
Yes, I did return the first model. Yes, I have had 3 light engine replacements, no TV is perfect. You have to balance the trade offs with the picture quality. Sonys are soft, poor blacks and red push. Hitachis break, black crush, and red push. Pannys are just blah, too dark, muddy, etc. And all had the stupid side speakers which limited my space. The JVC just has an excellent picture, awesome colors, and the cabinet allowed me 2 more inches with a smaller footprint then LCDs. JVC support has been spectacular and extremely fast, faster then Best Buy, to fix my issues. My wife and I get headaches and eye fatigue from DLPs, the LCDs are just too long (with ridiculous side speakers) poor black levels and bad color reproduction along with Screen Door Effect. So, the JVC won be default, but has been all that I could have hoped for. Very happy customer. On: 2005-05-23
Dear potential Consumers
I have had the JVC 52" DILA for 3 months. This TV is worste than the cheapest 19" tv out there. I was fooled at Best Buy when I went to look at it. It *SEEMED* sharp, it *SEEMED* reliable, it *SEEMED* like a dream come true. It rurned out to be a nightmare. One night as i was giving my fiance a facial, I heard the TV make a zap sound and that was the last of it.
I called Best Buy (because I had their service plan) and I called JVC and the turn around time to have someone come out to *TAKE* a look at it was 3 days! I did not spend this much money to have to go and watch my old small tv in my bedroom.
I hope everyone understands that I am not exaggerating. The TV does have great picture quality but it you can tell there are severe electrical problems with it. 1 month after getting my TV i received a letter from JVC warning me that some of their 52" DILA models have caught fire.
My advice, shop around some more.. dont stop here and get this TV. It sucks! On: 2005-05-04
Have had this tv for @ 2 months now and am still very pleased with
it. The picture quality in Hi-Def is just stunning, also with DVDs
and video games (playstation). You may have to adjust the picture at first but its not a hard thing to do. One note I would add is this tv like all the others are only going to look great when watching Hi-Def channels,DVD,or video games, regular cable is all right but you view all the junk in the picture and to be honest it looks like junk. The good thing is before too long all channels will be in Hi-Def and you will be glad you bought this tv.
If you have not seen sports in Hi-Def you will be in for a real treat, looks better than being at the event. On: 2005-03-23
Ive had this tv for 3 months now and love it. Out of the box picture was pretty bad but after tweaking for a couple of days i got it tollerable. Just last week i had a pro calibration. It cost 400 bucks but was worth every penny. Alot of people dont know that every tv, especially big screens, should be calibrated. I wont go into great detail (google television calibration) but the correct color temperature for a tv is 6500 degrees. This tv before calibration was 15000 degrees. That basically means whites look blue and flesh tones look green. All tv manufacturers set the color temps very high from the factory because it "looks" better to us initially and could possibly give them more sales just from the customers first impression on the sales floor. It took about 3 hours for the calibration and all I can say is WOW! The picture is now literally stunning. One more thing, I see alot of people are really annoyed by fan noise. I hear the fan of this tv about 1% of my total viewing time and it doesnt bother me at all.
If you have this tv or any big screen television you really should have a calibration done. I see alot of reviews of people saying the picture is great but they dont mention having it calibrated. If you think it looks great now imagine what it would look like after a pro calibration.
PROS:
Looks great on or off
Easily viewable in a sunlit room
Good sound
Beautiful picture quality
No screendoor or rainbow effect
Lots of inputs
Great value for a superior technology
CONS:
Menu system could be better
Must spend extra cash for calibration (true for every television though, and worth it)
Great looking stand from JVC is extra $500 On: 2005-02-24
I looked for a long time and had settled on a DLP Samsung model. It had a very good picture and these DLP types of TVs are very popular now.There are two things I didnt like about them. 1) They have a mechanical color wheel that generates the colors. 2) because of 1 above, they have a rainbow effect that can be noticed. (I have a friend that already has a noise coming from his Samsung DLP color wheel.)
The JVC has a 3 chip design that eliminates both of the above. It is very bright( I have a bright sunny room),reasonably priced, and it looks great. The only possible problem is, they do not seem to be selling enough of them to make them the leading technology. As a result, I worry about future supply of parts and such. On: 2005-02-24
Excellent television with one exception. Seemingly unresolved compatibility issue with the HDMI cable. I couldnt get a Toshiba DVD to operate on this TV through the HDMI cable, even though it worked on the 61 inch JVC and on other brand television sets such as Sony and Toshiba. The problem was replicated on other 52 inch JVC sets. However an LG DVD with HDMI worked fine on the JVC 52 inch.
This is a great performer. Worked very nicely on DVDs and surprisingly well on standard Dish Sattelite channels -- which is important because there are very few HD channels. I ended up returnming my set and getting a Sony 55 inch (the KDF-55WF655). After viewing the Sony for a couple of days, I think the Sony is a better performer. Sony has more clarity, and less digital artifacts. The Sony performed better on DVDs and on Dish digital channels.
Bottom line, the JVC is a great TV - the Sony 55" is better. On: 2005-01-30
Quick Review:
The HD52575 is a great alternative to DLP for those who pick up on rainbowing (the appearance of trailing rainbow effects caused by a color wheel). The picture quality has the potential to be excellent, however it is pretty poor out of the box. If you have a setup disk or good knowledge of home theater setup, this is hardly a roadblock. The picture is very clear and vibrant once the setup has been completed. Audio is standard for a projection TV, but most people buying this will be running through a receiver anyway. The menus are sub-par, but again, if youre all about picture this is a GREAT buy. It is also the brightest projection TV Ive ever seen. It eclipses a number of CRT and Plasma displays. It could do with a few more high-def inputs, but other than that, near perfect.
Detailed Review:
The first thing I noticed when I picked the set up was how light it was. Even for a micro-display projection it was incredibly easy to lift and move. My first thought (which turned out to be correct) was that they sacrificed low-range sound by using smaller speakers and no sub. Over all the cabinet is pretty stylish. There is only a power button on the front and no hidden panel. All of the other controls are located on the right-hand side along with additional inputs. The TV, like most projections, has a warm up time. The JVCs warm up time is a little longer than most for the initial picture, but much quicker for full luminosity. It takes about 70 seconds (90 is advertised on the packed - in warning sheet) to get an initial display, with full brightness in about 2 minutes. An initial setup menu that looked about 6 years too old came up. It was a standard language/time menu. Easy enough. The first thing I did was hook up a Windows Media Center PC via a Monster HDMI to DVI cable. Initial results were not great and I have to admit I was worried Id be making a trip back to the store that night. I grabbed Return of the King from my DVD case and threw it in the drive. Again, I was worried. The picture was artifacted and the color was good, but not great. I popped into the menu and bumbled around for a bit until I got the hang of their system. All of the menus are serially linked. That is, you have to scroll through each item to navigate. There are menu headings, but they are non selectable, so you cant even jump from one category to another. Very poor design. When I found the picture setup, I noticed that everything was set at 0 with a +-30 range. I immediately hit the Detail control and set it to -30. Anything above -30 adds artificial edge to the picture. This helped a great deal with my media center picture and I was feeling relieved. I began setting up the other controls. First I turned off all of the automatic configurations for gama, noise and color. I then worked on manually configuring the hue and saturation. The TV had very little red push (the over calibration of the red channel to compensate for the bluer grays used by most TV manufacturers these days), so tones looked pretty good. The color and tint did have to be adjusted to get true cyan and magenta (see the end of the review for what worked for me). In the setup I found that the TV had very little overdrive(how far off the edge of the display the actual picture is projected. Most sets project between 5% and 10% over the edge, causing a loss of data but eliminating black bars on smaller source), which was great. The overdrive sat at about 2.5%, which is professional grade all the way. All of my initial calibrations were done using the Standard preset. The TV has only 4 memory allocations for settings, which is unfortunate. I used an RGB filter and a test pattern to verify color correctness, but for most people, eyeballing should be fine. The controls are not graduated as much as they should be (61 total settings for each control), but most people shouldnt have a hard time finding a good balance between all of the settings. After I got it set up properly, I threw Return of the King back in and held my breath. The picture was amazing! From 5 some minor issues could be seen and the MPEG2 format did show its limitations, but at 10, it was a truly great experience! I grabbed a high-definition demo from the Windows Media website at 720p and tried that. Again, the adjustments had worked and all was right with the world. I spent about 3 hours setting up my various inputs to match the quality of the "Standard" preset and Im very pleased with the picture.
Breakdown
Picture:
Initially very poor. The detail seting on the TV is over-weighted. Turning it to -30 is the only way to eliminate all artificial edges. Color is OK, but can be improved. Brightness needs to be toned down and contrast adjusted to acheive the best picture. There is no true gray temperature, only high and low. Low allows for a more accurate color representation, however many people are now used to the bluer gray tones so its up to you. The dynamic settings can really mess up a good DVD when they start over correcting, but they can be turned off. Very low overdrive means youre getting the most information from your media. Over all, befor adjustment *** out of 5 stars and after, ****1/2 out of 5 stars.
Sound:
Passible mids and highs. Very minimal lows. I didnt spend much time on this since I run through an external receiver. One neat feature is the ability to use the TV speakers as a center channel. They are more than capable to drive voice and its a good way to get a more true-to-theater audio experience. *** out of 5 stars.
Setup:
Setup is a pain. The menus are not intuitive nor are they complete. The visual style of the menus are about 6 years out of date at best. * out of 5 stars.
Other:
One complaint I read about the TV was fan noise. It is definitely present, but mostly unnoticable in a large room. There is not enough polution to be an issue.
Viewing angle is very high for a rear projection. The horizontal angle is very wide and the picture can be seen very well by everyone seated in a standard room. To preserve the intensity of the picture while keeping the viewing angle wide, it has been narrowed slightly on the verticle plane. Standing next to the TV, the picture is noticably dimmer, however as soon as you get your eye level below the top of the set, the picture jumps to life. The ammount of light driven by the set is amazing. But because of that, you do want to have some ambient light in the room.
Value:
A very good value when compared to competing technologies. High picture fidelity and low entry cost make this TV a great value. **** out of 5 stars.
Tech Info:
Here are the settings I used on the HDMI input to get a truer picture:
Tint +1
Color -8
Picture +8
Bright -27
Detail -30
Temperature: Low
All automatic settings OFF. On: 2005-01-29
Quick Review:
The HD52575 is a great alternative to DLP for those who pick up on rainbowing (the appearance of trailing rainbow effects caused by a color wheel). The picture quality has the potential to be excellent, however it is pretty poor out of the box. If you have a setup disk or good knowledge of home theater setup, this is hardly a roadblock. The picture is very clear and vibrant once the setup has been completed. Audio is standard for a projection TV, but most people buying this will be running through a receiver anyway. The menus are sub-par, but again, if youre all about picture this is a GREAT buy. It is also the brightest projection TV Ive ever seen. It eclipses a number of CRT and Plasma displays. It could do with a few more high-def inputs, but other than that, near perfect.
Detailed Review:
The first thing I noticed when I picked the set up was how light it was. Even for a micro-display projection it was incredibly easy to lift and move. My first thought (which turned out to be correct) was that they sacrificed low-range sound by using smaller speakers and no sub. Over all the cabinet is pretty stylish. There is only a power button on the front and no hidden panel. All of the other controls are located on the right-hand side along with additional inputs. The TV, like most projections, has a warm up time. The JVCs warm up time is a little longer than most for the initial picture, but much quicker for full luminosity. It takes about 70 seconds (90 is advertised on the packed - in warning sheet) to get an initial display, with full brightness in about 2 minutes. An initial setup menu that looked about 6 years too old came up. It was a standard language/time menu. Easy enough. The first thing I did was hook up a Windows Media Center PC via a Monster HDMI to DVI cable. Initial results were not great and I have to admit I was worried Id be making a trip back to the store that night. I grabbed Return of the King from my DVD case and threw it in the drive. Again, I was worried. The picture was artifacted and the color was good, but not great. I popped into the menu and bumbled around for a bit until I got the hang of their system. All of the menus are serially linked. That is, you have to scroll through each item to navigate. There are menu headings, but they are non selectable, so you cant even jump from one category to another. Very poor design. When I found the picture setup, I noticed that everything was set at 0 with a +-30 range. I immediately hit the Detail control and set it to -30. Anything above -30 adds artificial edge to the picture. This helped a great deal with my media center picture and I was feeling relieved. I began setting up the other controls. First I turned off all of the automatic configurations for gama, noise and color. I then worked on manually configuring the hue and saturation. The TV had very little red push (the over calibration of the red channel to compensate for the bluer grays used by most TV manufacturers these days), so tones looked pretty good. The color and tint did have to be adjusted to get true cyan and magenta (see the end of the review for what worked for me). In the setup I found that the TV had very little overdrive(how far off the edge of the display the actual picture is projected. Most sets project between 5% and 10% over the edge, causing a loss of data but eliminating black bars on smaller source), which was great. The overdrive sat at about 2.5%, which is professional grade all the way. All of my initial calibrations were done using the Standard preset. The TV has only 4 memory allocations for settings, which is unfortunate. I used an RGB filter and a test pattern to verify color correctness, but for most people, eyeballing should be fine. The controls are not graduated as much as they should be (61 total settings for each control), but most people shouldnt have a hard time finding a good balance between all of the settings. After I got it set up properly, I threw Return of the King back in and held my breath. The picture was amazing! From 5 some minor issues could be seen and the MPEG2 format did show its limitations, but at 10, it was a truly great experience! I grabbed a high-definition demo from the Windows Media website at 720p and tried that. Again, the adjustments had worked and all was right with the world. I spent about 3 hours setting up my various inputs to match the quality of the "Standard" preset and Im very pleased with the picture.
Breakdown
Picture:
Initially very poor. The detail seting on the TV is over-weighted. Turning it to -30 is the only way to eliminate all artificial edges. Color is OK, but can be improved. Brightness needs to be toned down and contrast adjusted to acheive the best picture. There is no true gray temperature, only high and low. Low allows for a more accurate color representation, however many people are now used to the bluer gray tones so its up to you. The dynamic settings can really mess up a good DVD when they start over correcting, but they can be turned off. Very low overdrive means youre getting the most information from your media. Over all, befor adjustment *** out of 5 stars and after, ****1/2 out of 5 stars.
Sound:
Passible mids and highs. Very minimal lows. I didnt spend much time on this since I run through an external receiver. One neat feature is the ability to use the TV speakers as a center channel. They are more than capable to drive voice and its a good way to get a more true-to-theater audio experience. *** out of 5 stars.
Setup:
Setup is a pain. The menus are not intuitive nor are they complete. The visual style of the menus are about 6 years out of date at best. * out of 5 stars.
Other:
One complaint I read about the TV was fan noise. It is definitely present, but mostly unnoticable in a large room. There is not enough polution to be an issue.
Viewing angle is very high for a rear projection. The horizontal angle is very wide and the picture can be seen very well by everyone seated in a standard room. To preserve the intensity of the picture while keeping the viewing angle wide, it has been narrowed slightly on the verticle plane. Standing next to the TV, the picture is noticably dimmer, however as soon as you get your eye level below the top of the set, the picture jumps to life. The ammount of light driven by the set is amazing. But because of that, you do want to have some ambient light in the room.
Value:
A very good value when compared to competing technologies. High picture fidelity and low entry cost make this TV a great value. **** out of 5 stars.
Tech Info:
Here are the settings I used on the HDMI input to get a truer picture:
Tint +1
Color -8
Picture +8
Bright -27
Detail -30
Temperature: Low
All automatic settings OFF. On: 2005-01-14
Purchased this TV from Amazon.com and it was delivered to my
home in just a few days. Absolutely stunning on and off. You
got to see it to believe it!
I did extensive research before purchasing it and looked at DLP,
CRT, LCD projection, and LCOS from Sony, Mitsubishi, Samsung,
etc. - and this JVC triple-chip LCOS is the clear winner.
It has the brightest output, no rainbow effect ( DLP uses
one chip and a rotating color wheel that sends red, blue, and
green light sequentially to your eye and your brain must create
the color - this causes color artifacts ), no screen door
effect ( LCD projection and DLP both have space around each
pixel which creates a screen door effect if viewed from
a close proximity ). The color decoding is absolutely
incredible. It is like looking at a 52 inch tube!
Only gotcha is that there is an issue with the HDMI input which
JVC will dispatch an on-site technician to correct. Component
inputs are great right out of the box.
This TV is better than the best DLPs today at one third the
price. Buy it - you will be happy. Amazon.com is an authorized
JVC dealer so you get JVCs on site warranty when purchased from
Amazon.com
On: 2004-12-11
Purchased this tv about 3 months ago, and am still very impressed by it. The picture with a high def feed is just incredible, I still find myself just standing and staring at it. But that is also its one drawback, not enough channels are in high def yet. I have dish and you only get 2 maybe 3 channels in high def that are worth watching. Local channels must be picked up using an "off air" antenna you will have to buy and have installed in addition to the dish, I dony yet have the antenna as I am still trying to decide which to buy. Football / Basketball on ESPN in hi def is really cool.
Also you need to plan on spending another $300 to $600 on off air antennas, DVI to HDMI cables, etc just to get this set up correctly. On: 2004-10-29
Got this TV back in August. Love the picture, and the slim profile. Got the HD52Z585(the cabinet is all black). Only problem is that Im having an HDMI input compatibility issue with my hi-def satellite receiver. JVC has reported this as a problem on their website: http://www.jvc.com/support/support.jsp?pageID=1&item=411. After 3 phone calls to JVC, and waiting a month for service (which never occurred), I contacted the dealer. The store that I bought the TV from has an exchange policy with JVC if theres any problem. So theyre bringing a new one tomorrow. Hope it doesnt have the same issue. If it does, Im asking it be replaced with a different brand.
Ive purchased countless JVC products over the years (3 HDTVs, 3 AV Receivers, VCR, 2 DVD Players, CD changer), and have never had a problem with any of them until now. Their customer no-service basically ignored me for a month (which is why I didnt give it 5 stars). So on that alone, this will be my last JVC product. Pity... You would think they would be willing to work with you on a $3000.00 + TV, but I guess not.
If you only use the component jacks for HD, youll still love this TV. Just make sure a reputable dealer stands behind it if theres a problem. On: 2004-09-27
I was impressed with this TVs picture in the showroom - I thought it was better than DLP sets (i.e. Samsung) and similar to plasma sets that cost 2-3x more. But I was a little reticent to purchase this TV due to the fact that its relatively new (released July-04) and there is not much critical feedback. I ended up purchasing the TV from Amazon and its been great. Check out AVS forum for detailed discussions about this TV and the technology behind it. On: 2004-08-13
Am having a wall unit put in to hold tv. All custom but readymade via Home Depot;Lowes etchave 48" widths 49/7/8 is what your JVC 52" D-ILA measures Right??? I almost decided on the samsung 46" which measures about 40" or less. Their 50" is Just the same 40" wide for they eliminated the wide Black Frame and the 43" became the 46".If one sits 8 feet from tv the 50 and 52" is too big.I have a 17 foot wall and a 2400 sq foot house and I will be 8ft from tv.I love your tv and would have bought it today but only if it were a bit smaller.You are also missing a very important price point.Around $2500.this makes it more affordable and therefore more volume. Samsung sell more dlp sets in 43 inch and 46 inch than the 50s and the 60inchYour styling and quality has everyone with projection lcds BEAT but you are missing the golden opportunity. Sales,Management, and marketing was my professon and without any company pension I retired at 55 yrs old 10 years ago and now live in Florida Ralph Langer Probably nothing will happen but I have given you a multi million $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$Idea
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